Brian Myers and Karl Anderson were discussing Paul Heyman during their Patreon-exclusive Talk'nshop Podcast.
Myers had this to say about Heyman:
āThe genius is he had his finger on the pulse in the late 90s but not now, no because I saw no genius whatsoever. I was just explaining this to somebody. I was like, āI know you guys all love to praise him for what he did then and Iām sure thatās real and I did see him pull star quality and performances and things out of people that you wouldnāt have thought but man, I saw zero brilliance in 2019.ā
Anderson replied:
āMaybe to be the devilās advocate, maybe because he had somebody above him not allowing him to be completely him and trust me I donāt want to stick up for him. But just saying maybe he wasnāt able to go as far as he wanted to go, maybe that was what was holding him backā¦I absolutely think he wasnāt a genius but heās a good promo guy now.ā
āHeās the greatest promo guy of all time and to your face as well. He would tell me I was a top guy. I would go, āhold on, I know I am but you donāt think I am and neither does he or he or he. I think I am but I know that Iām not in this environment.'ā
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